Saturday, September 04, 2010

A Celestial Sign - The Twelfth Orbit of Neptune

First, in the news, 'Pretty traumatic' - Christchurch shaken by quake If that's a sign, and that seems likely, it's not hard to read. It relates to the sign of Neptune.

According to Nehemia Gordon in the Karaite Korner Newsletter #474, "Next week is the biblical festival of Yom Teruah, the Day of Shouting/ Trumpeting (literally: noise-making). The moon will definitely be visible from Israel on Friday night September 10..."

We're about to enter another series of appointed times, holy days, which are cryptic prophecies marking special events of the past, present and/or future. These are rehearsals and they're not for naught. The most critical events that are yet to come are related to what has already been. When the Lord Y'shua commanded us to watch (Mark 13:37), inherent in that command is that we become familiar with the testimony of the scriptures, the history of the "moadim" (appointed times), historical events, and cycles of the heavens. There's much to be learned from repeating patterns.

It was through such that the Lord was able to get my attention back in 1991 when the sign of the Lion of the tribe of Judah's coming appeared in the heavens. At that time, a coded prophecy from Genesis 49 was fulfilled, comparing to one in Revelation 12 that was fulfilled at His birth.

What I'm going to present in this post is a celestial sign involving the planet Neptune. (Thanks, John, for bringing this to my attention!) This is not the kind of sign that will cause people to pull their car over and gawk at the sky. Neptune is more dim than the nearby stars of Aquarius through which the constellation's "stick figure" representation is drawn. What makes the event noteworthy is the history. Now, I don't claim to have revelation insight about this. I consider this situation is worth watching, given that we're entering into the fall moadim season, and what appears to be signaled by the sign is not unique. The level of accuracy that I'm using here isn't such that I see a particular day being called out. If there is a specific watch window I see it extending from now through perhaps the next couple months.

Neptune was "discovered" (at least, acknowledged as such in the modern era) on September 23rd, 1846. The image above right is a view of the sky from that very day that shows Neptune's position between Capricornus and Aquarius (as viewed from Jerusalem, Israel, Earth).

This planet orbits the sun once every 164.79 Earth years. In the image below left you can see how the sky appears today, very nearly one full "Neptune Year" after its discovery. Notice Neptune's location.

Twelve Neptune orbits ago, it appeared as in the image below right. This is the sky of April 3, 33 AD, when the great Pesah sacrifice was made and Y'shua gave up his life, crucified. Neptune's location is very close to where it was when Neptune was discovered and where it is today. This observation was interesting enough to prompt some further investigation.

Many years ago the Lord highlighted the following passage to me as making reference to the celestial sign known as Aquarius, the water bearer. Notice from the passage how the water bearer feature was a sign to Peter and John (together, the Bride and the 144,000 sons of Israel - see Beyond the Veil)that would lead them to the upper room where they would sup with their Lord (a symbol of a very special place in the heavenlies).

8) And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
9) And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
10) And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
11) And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
12) And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
13) And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
14) And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

Luke 22:8-14

At that time Neptune was positioned as pictured above, entering into the region of the sky known as the water bearer.

The following passage speaks to me of this same region of the sky, as blood and water poured out of the sacrifice, as a sign.

32) Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
33) But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs
34) But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35) And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
36) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
37) And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.

John 19:32-37

Since these passages of scripture direct those familiar with the message of the gospel written in the celestial heavens to this region of the sky, what's found when we turn our attention there should be noted in the context of the very significant events unfolding in the earth. The Hermetic Maxim I've referred to in recent blog posts, "As Above, So Below," is a simplistic but valid observation of a great truth presented in Romans 1. Agreeing with the testimony of Psalm 19, the heavenly lights above give a synchronized testimony of the actual events in the heavenlies and in the Earth below. When we look to the referenced region of the sky of that day we see the "wandering star," Neptune.

It should be noted here that there are many levels of symbolism that apply to the planets. For example, the planet Jupiter is a symbol for both the true messiah and the false, depending upon the context and perspective. Likewise Mercury may represent Hermes or, I believe, Gabriel. The Sun may represent Zeus or Apollo, or Bridegroom Y'shua. The names and meanings associated with the stars and constellations also have more than one level of symbolism. What scholarly men like Bullinger and Seiss have offered for interpretations in their popular works is of interest, yet, it must be stated here that their observations hold no particular authority. Neither do those who interpret the meanings of the celestial lights from other perspectives have authority. If we are to know what the Lord is revealing to us about them, we must seek Him with obedience because He is the authority. Only as we seek and find from Him do we keep ourselves from error. Astrology and occult wisdom that is a perversion of the truth is only discerned through a close familiarity with the genuine. Get to know Him and abide in Him. If you shaky on this, you've got no business here. This is not milk but meat for those who have been weaned. If you're confident in the Lord's drawing you here, there are some very interesting things to consider.

Neptune is associated with Satan and the beast of Revelation 13. Most languages today use some variant of the name "Neptune" for the planet. In Chinese, Japanese and Korean languages, the planet's name translates to "sea king star." Jupiter is the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Zeus. Zeus is an alias for Satan according to the Revelation 2 message to Pergamum. Neptune is the Roman equivalent of the Greek Poseidon. Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are the big three gods of Greece. These may be three different identities for the god referred to as Satan.

The astrological symbol for Neptune is a trident and cross. The cross signifies the intersection or union of the sons of god (the vertical) with the daughters of men (the horizontal). The trident signifies the triple-helix DNA structure of the hybrid bodies produced in that union. The Neptune symbol is a very concise emblem of the mark of the Beast.

Thirteen moons orbit Neptune. This number has the meanings of "Lord" and also "rebellion." This is a primary number signaling the Beast. During the Pesah season marking the close of Y'shua's earthly ministry to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, there were two of these "13-numbered" characters in view, a betrayer named Judas (John 17:12) (referenced as the son of perdition like the lawless one (2 Thessalonians 2:3)), and a Jesus Barabbas, another prefiguring of the antichrist Beast.

It's in the first verse of the thirteenth chapter of Revelation where we read of a beast seen rising up out of the sea. Neptune is the god of the sea.

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Revelation 13:1

When Y'shua was crucified and gave up his life, certain dramatic signs were manifested. Since these signs actually correspond to the classic attributes of Neptune/Poseidon, it testifies that there's something to be learned here.

The following excerpts present some basic attributes of Neptune/Poseidon.

"With his trident, he could command the waves, cause storms, shake the earth, sink boats on the high sea, or cause springs to flow."
Poseidon - Functions and Character (From Myth To Eternity - The Tales And Legends Of Ancient Greece)

"Being the ruler of the sea (the Mediterranean), he is described as gathering clouds and calling forth storms, but at the same he has it in his power to grant a successful voyage and save those who are in danger, and all other marine divinities are subject to him. As the sea surrounds and holds the earth, he himself is described as the god who holds the earth (gaiêochos), and who has it in his power to shake the earth (enosichthôn, kinêtêr gas)."
"The symbol of Poseidon's power was the trident, or a spear with three points, with which he used to shatter rocks, to call forth or subdue storms, to shake the earth, and the like.
Poseidon -

Here's a selection of verses from the crucifixion account in Matthew.

38) Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.

50) Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51) And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

54) Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

Matthew 27:38, 50-51, 54

A Roman centurion would have been quite familiar with Neptune, whose trident was used to shatter rocks and to shake the earth. So, consider how two thieves were crucified with Y'shua, one on the right hand, and another on the left. They would have been hung with nails through their wrists on large wooden stakes. There were no cross members, like you seen in pictures. The scene resembled a giant trident stuck into the ground! When Y'shua died, "the earth did quake, and the rocks rent." Something in this witnessed to the centurion who was educated in the ways of gods and demi-gods!

Here's verse 54 as rendered more literally from the Greek.

And the centurion, and those with him watching Jesus, having seen the earthquake, and the things that were done, were exceedingly afraid, saying, `Truly this was God's Son.'
Matthew 27:54 (YLT)

Notice how the proposition "the" does not appear in connection with "God's Son." The proposition really doesn't appear in the text. Check your reference works. It's a subtle thing, but I want to call your attention to how such language causes those who read "Truly this was the Son of God" in their Bible to assume it means these observers were convinced that the one who died was the singular Son of the one true Sovereign God. When the centurion and those watching with him feared greatly and were saying, `Truly this was God's Son,' must we assume they were instantly converted from paganism? Would it help you consider the possibilities if we removed the capitalized letters, reading their response as `Truly this was god's son'? The gods fathered many children with other gods and with mortals. Maybe some movie you've seen reinforced the sermons and popular interpretation of the reading, but really, while such readings, sermons and movies are influential, there is no implicit authority in them. I don't find anything in the context that suggests whether the centurion or the others with him discerned which god or God may have fathered Y'shua. If I've overlooked something, please do me the favor of letting me know.

While this observation may offend some who read this, It must be said that I'm not presenting this to subtract from any honor due my Lord Y'shua or His Heavenly Father but to bring what's actually written to your attention, so you don't read into it what's not really there. Being held in bondage to errors of tradition gives the Truth no honor at all!

So, while we don't want to read into a passage what's not there, neither do we want to neglect to see what is there, even when it's imprinted between the lines, so to speak. What I understand about Neptune suggests to me that some consideration must be given to his potential role in the crucifixion.

which no one of the rulers of this age did know, for if they had known, the Lord of the glory they would not have crucified;
1 Corinthians 2:8 (YLT)

I believe the testimony of the scriptures, that the rulers of this age were involved in the crucifixion. I believe the false god Satan in the guise of Neptune left his mark at the scene of the crime. I believe the location of the planet we know as Neptune at that very time should at the present time (being 12 orbits later) be considered for its potential as a sign. That such celestial lights were given as signs to mark seasons (Hebrew moadim - "appointed times") is the clear testimony of Genesis 1:14. When the scriptures direct our attention to the heavens, we should look up and consider the signs in the heavens!

How are we directed to look up to the heavens in the account of the crucifixion?

44) And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
45) And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

Luke 23:44-45

The sun was darkened - that's in the heavens. There's more here that should be considered.

A centurion would surely view such a scene as that differently from you and I. The sun being darkened followed by a trident stuck into the earth with rocks rending and the earth shaking would be viewed as Neptune overshadowing Jupiter and Apollo. Doubt it? Consider the pagan influence in this scriptural account of what happened in the Roman colony of Lystra.

9) The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed,
10) Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.
11) And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.
12) And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13) Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.

Acts 14:9-13

I believe this pagan influence is evident in another element in the crucifixion scene. I always puzzled over why people looked for Elias to get involved. Now, I understand how Elias is on their minds because of what's happening with the sun.

45) Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
46) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
47) Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.
48) And straightway one of them ran, and took a sponge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
49) The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.

Matthew 27:45-49

So, why would they think he's calling for Elias and watching to see whether Elias would come to save him? The darkness over all the land with the darkened sun began from the sixth hour but it concluded at the ninth hour. When Y'sua gave his life at about the ninth hour, the sun was either no longer darkened or just about to be. There's a Wikipedia entry for Elias with some interesting insight, with the Hellenist influence relating Elias with Helios and/or Apollo, the sun god.

"Helios the sun-god became the prophet Elijah (the Greek form is Elias and, as the [...] had probably already fallen into disuse at the time of the changeover, the disguise was very thin). The name of this Hebrew prophet is now very common in Greece, but rare in Italy, where this name for Apollo was unknown. His shrine is always on mountains and hilltops where Helios, the heaven-born flaming charioteer, was worshipped. They symbolize, says the Church, Elijah's whirlwind assumption to heaven in a chariot of fire drawn by horses of fire; and hundreds of lofty peaks all over the Greek world still commemorate this personification of Apollo." (Fermor, Patrick Leigh (1958). Mani: Travels in the Southern Peloponnese)

If there are no false gods, then none of this makes any sense, or matters. But, if there are, we do well to acknowledge their influence on pagans, their cultures, and pick up on the Bible's clues that have been woven in for our benefit. I perceive the influence of Hermes over Rochester, NY and over America. I perceive Apollo's influence over Hitler, Obama, Sir Francis Bacon and George Washington. I perceive Satan's work in the guise of Neptune/Poseidon at the crucifixion. Today, around twelve Neptune orbits later, is there some crucifixion kind of event we should anticipate?

Next post, Lord willing...


  1. Interesting link to 1991 in which you mention the date 9/10/91 as being the beginning of judgement. I was checking on the news of that day and it turned out that the Grateful Dead performed a song at Madison Square Garden that day called the Estimated Prophet which had very interesting lyrics. Thought you might find this interesting.

  2. Here is another song that the Grateful Dead played on 9/10/91 by Bob Dylan called "Its all over now Baby Blue", which had prophetic verses in it. Bob Dylan became a Christian in 1978 and some considered his lyrics to be prophetic.